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When and how did you finally come to play bass guitar in the
band?
DS Well the first time I used it, it got rejected! One of my earliest
TV appearances with Jools was a show for Amnesty International. We
were the house band and we had to play for Lisa Stansfield, Mica Paris,
Sam Brown (before she became a permanent member) Rick Astley and Desree.
Mica did ‘I Put A Spell On You’ so I thought “OK,
double bass will be good for that” but the rest of the songs,
as far as I was concerned, had to be on bass guitar. This was not only
because of the style of music, but the original bass parts were either
played on a synth, or a five string bass. Either way, I needed those
low B’s C’s & D’s. The only bass I had at the
time with a low B was a Ken Smith six string. Jools didn’t like
it one bit! Didn’t like the sound, the look, or the vibe, so
I did the whole show on double bass. It went fine I guess, but my nose
was a little out of joint, though I had adapted the bass parts and
everyone seemed happy.
Didn’t a similar thing happen during the filming of Chris Evans ‘Don’t
forget your Toothbrush’ on Channel 4?
DS That really was the big turning point in me switching to bass guitar.
That show was broadcast ‘live’ so the band were under an
enormous amount of pressure. If one of us screwed up while playing
for, say, Roger Daltry, the whole nation heard it right there and then
in their homes. And Roger wouldn’t have been too pleased either!
Anyway, I’d been using the double bass for all the shows, which
kept Jools happy. Then, one week the guest was Chaka Khan. I couldn’t
believe it! I was, and still am a huge fan of hers, this was a dream
come true for me. The two songs she wanted to do were ‘I’m
Every Woman” and ‘Ain’t Nobody’. I thought “Great” but
there is no way I was going to play those songs on double bass. I told
Jools, but he wasn’t thrilled by the idea.
Why? Surely he must have realized the bass guitar was the more suitable
choice?
DS His feeling was, the band had it’s own sound, it’s own
identity, he didn’t want us to be yet another characterless,
generic TV house band. I totally understood and appreciated what he
was saying but in this instance, when I’m about to play for one
of my all time favourite artists live on TV, I had to stand my ground,
and I did. So that night I played my white 77/78 Fender Jazz. The only
other dilemma was what to do about the low E flats in ‘Ain’t
Nobody’? First of all I thought about detuning the E string,
which would of course change the positioning of all the other notes
on that string. I hadn’t done much detuning in the past, and
this hardly seemed the ideal time to be experimenting! So I used a
Boss Octave pedal, and played the line up the octave. I kept the pedal
on for ‘I’m Every Woman’ to get the synth sound that
was on the remixed version we had been given on cassette. Yes, that’s
right, cassette! All went well, and Chaka was thrilled, as I know we
all were.
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